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Girls Just Wanna Get Haunted
Spooky Side Quests 01 Our First Paracon
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Welcome to the very first episode of Spooky Side Quests, a new mini-series from Girls Just Wanna Get Haunted! These shorter, more conversational episodes take us off the beaten path and into the weird, spooky, and wonderfully strange places we discover along the way. From paranormal events to quirky museums, oddball shops, and roadside curiosities, Spooky Side Quests are all about the adventures that don't quite fit into our regular episodes.
For our first Side Quest, we traveled to DeKalb, Illinois to attend our very first paranormal convention: Obscura Paracon. Held inside the castle-like Altgeld Hall at Northern Illinois University, the convention brought together paranormal investigators, psychics, vendors, authors, and enthusiasts for a weekend filled with workshops, shopping, and all things strange and unexplained. Join us as we share our favorite moments, and our first experience stepping into the world of paranormal conventions.
Obscura Paracon - Illuminating the Unseen. Celebrating the Unknown.
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LaceyBrought it up. Oh, your picture. Gotcha, gotcha. Gotcha, gotcha. My essence is joyful and optimistic.
JasmineWhere? This episode of Spooky Side Quest took us to our very first paranormal convention, the unforgettable Obscura Paracon in Decal- Dekalb. Dekalb. Held inside the absolutely stunning Alt- Altgeld? Altgeld?
LaceyI have no idea.
JasmineIt's A-L-T-G-E-L-D.
LaceyI think I kept calling it
JasmineAltged. Alt- something Hall, Altgeld Hall, at Northern Illinois University. The entire event felt like stepping into another world before we even walked through the doors, because it looks like a castle, gargoyles included.
LaceyIt did have gargoyles. Fascinated immediately. Yes. I love a
Jasminegargoyle. I was taking pictures. I was like, "This building is so cool."
LaceyBeautiful.
JasmineLook at the gargoyles.
LaceyGargoy- why did we stop putting gargoyles on things?
JasmineEverything should have gargoyles.
LaceyAgreed.
JasmineUh, between the stone walls, gothic architecture, uh, the atmosphere alone made it feel like we were entering some secret society gathering for ghost hunters and weird little cryptid enthusiasts. Obscura Paracon describes itself as a celebration of the paranormal, the unexplained, and the beautifully strange. And honestly, that description's pretty accurate. The convention brought together paranormal investigators, psychic mediums, vendors, authors, metaphysical practitioners, and people who simply love the strange and unknown. Whether you're deeply into the paranormal world or just paranormal curious, there is something for everyone there One of the coolest parts of the convention was how interactive everything felt. There were lectures and presentations happening throughout the weekend covering haunted locations, paranormal investigations, metaphysical topics and personal experiences. There were workshops where attendees could get on-hand experience with different paranormal tools and practices instead of just sitting and listening to someone talk. And then there was a marketplace, which was basically impossible to walk through without spending money. Isn't that right?
LaceyI don't know why you're looking at me like that.
JasmineDidn't you buy, like, three tote bags?
LaceyI think I got two. Excuse you.
JasmineHow many, how many patches did you get?
LaceyA lot. Okay, but they were a really good deal- and I'm very excited about my patches. Yeah, exactly. Obviously, I'm a sucker- for a marketplace.
JasmineYeah. Love it.
LaceyAnd you do not help.
JasmineYou're like, "Tell me I don't need this," and I'm like,
LaceyI will never tell you that. You need it.
JasmineBut you do need it.
LaceyUh, I'm sorry, what did, what did you purchase?
JasmineUm, what did I purchase? I bought spirit dice- and a little case holder for cat balls with, like, planchets that say, like, yes, no, maybe. I'm not saying I didn't buy anything. It's
Laceyvery fancy.
JasmineIt's very cool.
LaceyYou got, like, the fancy ghost equipment, and I'm just like, "Ooh."
JasmineThey had... There was a vendor there that just, like, took stuffed animals and put EMF detectors in it.
LaceyOh, hilarious. The, there was one on a bike that, like, a tricycle.
JasmineYeah. It was so creepy. That guy was trying to get me to buy one hard.
LaceyHe saw you, and he's just like, "She needs this."
JasmineLook at this one. Look at this one." "Look at this one."
LaceyHe's like, "Wait, wait, come back. Look at this."
JasmineYeah.
LaceyWait, wait."
JasmineHe, I will put an EMF detector in anything. Bring me a toy.
LaceyI just remember someone had on their table set out, like, Jo-Ann's Halloween fabric
JasmineOh, yeah And
LaceyI'm just like- I have that fabric "I have that fabric. I have that fabric." And he's just like, "Yeah, come look at this. Come pick stuff up." And I'm like, "I'm talking about your fabric?" And they're like, "Ugh, Jo-Ann's." Like, I'm like, "You don't have to tell me, okay?"
JasmineI know. I know.
LaceyLike, I'm so devastated by Jo-Ann's. I, like, will talk about to anyone that'll let me. It's where I got my good Halloween fabric.
JasmineMy Halloween fabric. Along with the different- paranormal equipment, clothes, jewelry, there were investigators, investigator groups that, like, were playing some of their, like, evidence that they caught
LaceyA lot of tour guides that do
JasmineYeah, there were some tour guides. Like, um, there's this guy that does tours in Chicago, and I literally went on one of his tours the Octo- like, last October. It was so weird.
LaceyWhich, and I see him all the time in videos, especially when I was, like, looking up Al Capone stuff.
JasmineOh, I'm sure.
LaceyHe's just, like, always popping up.
JasmineYeah. And
LaceyI'm just like, "Hey."
JasmineHey, I know that guy."
LaceyI think it's funny how many people we recognize now on your, like, Haunt TV, your channel. Yeah.
JasmineI'm like, "Hey." "That guy's really boring." "Hey, we saw that guy." "I've met him."
LaceyYeah. Mm-hmm.
JasmineBut yeah, people, showing, like, videos and recordings of evidence that they've caught, some teams promoting events happening all over the Midwest that they were throwing. Every booth had something different, and every person there had a story to tell. It really felt less like a convention floor and more like wandering through some strange little supernatural bazaar. There was, like, the one guy, he cracked me up. He's like, "Well, I'm really sad now. I should stop telling people about this." And now I follow him on TikTok.
LaceyHe's also someone I saw on your-
JasmineTV
Laceyyeah.
JasmineYeah. We attended two workshops during the convention. One was definitely more successful than the other.
LaceyThere's also another one we wanted to go to, but it sold out instantly.
JasmineYeah. Sad face. It was what? Like, a, spiritual protection-
LaceyMaybe
Jasmineworkshop or something? But yeah, that was sold out. Like, my favorite, which I'm guessing is also your favorite workshop that we did- was the aura photography session. I've had my aura photographed before in July. So I was kind of really excited to compare the results, 'cause they can change. So the first time, I was, like, completely orange everything, with like a little bit of green in a certain area. And the reader was like... said it was powerful, intense, and kind of badass. And this time, my aura was, like, completely different, but it was also, like, a completely different setup, and, like, a computer program with, like, so many statistics.
LaceyThis one was definitely not, like, how I thought your other one went.
JasmineYeah.
LaceyLike, I
Jasminewas- It wasn't. It was a completely different presentation
Laceylike, I was really excited to, like, get my picture taken with the aura thing, and this was definitely more scientific.
JasmineYeah.
LaceyAlso, like, they ran out of time during the actual class.
JasmineYeah.
LaceySo she's like, "Oh, I can meet you guys a little later." And we, like... we're in, like, a big coat closet doing this- Yeah just, like, the three of us.
JasmineI, uh, I think it was also a sold-out class, and like... or close to selling out.
LaceyMm-hmm.
JasmineSo, like, I think she was just spending too much time going over everybody's report.
LaceyRight.
JasmineSo we were the last to arrive to the class, and like-
LaceyWe got lost. We didn't know where the classes were.
JasmineWe did. We got lost.
LaceyIt was like a weird side stairwell that, like, wasn't marked. It was like, it... the state... I don't know, it was weird.
JasmineYeah. So we got lost, and then, like, we arrived, like, a few minutes late, or, like, right on time. So the... We didn't have to do it in this order, but the way it ended up going is, like, she did her presentation, and then she was kinda like, "Okay, who wants to get their picture taken first?" And it kinda just went, like, the closest person to her, and then it went down the line. But we were the farthest people- Yeah away from her, so she just ran out of time.
LaceyWe also didn't get to sit together. There was, like, someone in between us.
JasmineDon't even... We're not even gonna talk about that guy. I wasn't gonna bring him up. I'm just saying we didn't get to sit together. We didn't get to sit together. That's my spot. Yeah, that was weird. So the most prominent color in my reading this time, which I'm pretty sure is the same as Lacey, was yellow 'Cause we're the same person. Uh, although there were several different colors mixed throughout the image, watching the process happen in real time, like on the computer, whoa, was kinda fascinating. The system was connected to sensors that tracked energetic changes during the reading, and you could literally watch the numbers flux- fluctuate as emotions shifted. At one point, like Lacey said, we were in a little closet, the photographer, like tech, took a step backwards, and she like tripped a little bit, and I thought she was gonna fall, so like my hand was still on the reader, but I was like and like put my hand out, but it like scared me. She caught herself. She didn't fall. But like- My readings, like I literally watched some of them go from this level to drop- after my... It's like a five before, and now it's a two in things. It was so weird to watch, because I was just, like, worried and scared for her.
LaceyI don't think I paid that much attention to the actual.
JasmineIt was like my reaction was reflected in, like, the actual data. It was so weird, 'cause there's, like, bars. According to the report, yellow auras are associated with bright, optimistic, intelligent, and creative personalities. They're considered energetic people who enjoy humor, spontaneity, creativity, and finding joy in life. The description talked a lot about optimism, emotional balance, and not taking life too seriously, uh, which is pretty accurate. The report itself was over, like, 15 pages long and went incredibly in depth into emotional patterns, personality traits, energy levels, and interpersonal dynamics. Whether you fully believe in aura photography or not, the entire experience was fascinating and surprisingly personal. The report, the actual, like, reading part was a little rushed since we ran out of time.
LaceyYeah, it was very rushed. I'm, like, kinda skimming this now. I ver- vaguely skimmed it before.
JasmineYeah.
LaceyIt's like this is a lot of information.
JasmineIt's a ton of stuff. Like-
LaceyIt's a ton
Jasminebroken down chakras, personality types, like, all kind of stuff. It
Laceysays my purpose is to bring joy to others.
JasmineThat's what you're doing right now. You're bringing joy to me.
LaceyYeah? Are you others? No. Just you? Spiritual: sees evidence of higher power everywhere and integrates intellect and spirituality well.
JasmineGhosts. Ghosts.
LaceyHigher power.
JasmineThe second workshop we attended was focused on spirit photography, which sounded extremely cool in theory. Unfortunately, it ended up feeling less like a paranormal workshop and more like a history lesson on the evolution of cameras.
LaceyI th- yeah, it was more like a show and tell. Yeah. Like, I have really cool cameras.
JasmineYeah.
LaceyDo you wanna look at them?
JasmineLook how old this one is.
LaceyLook at it. Just look at it.
JasmineDon't get me wrong- Cameras are cool.
LaceyAgreed.
JasmineBut I think we're both hoping for, like, more of a discussion about paranormal investigation te- techniques-
LaceyYes
Jasmineand trying to help, like, actually capture-
LaceyYes
Jasmineevidence on camera and video. But it instead was, like, really heavily leaned into, like, cameras itself and photography technology kind of. Yes.
LaceyThere wasn't any techniques.
JasmineYeah.
LaceyIt was just- Yeah how the cameras have changed.
JasmineOver time,
Laceyyes.
JasmineYeah. It wasn't terrible, just, you know, not quite what we expected going in.
LaceyI also think I was very distracted 'cause between the two classes, some people left and came back. They, like, came back with drinks and cake.
JasmineOh, yeah, and we're like, "That looks really good." Yeah. "We want that."
LaceyYeah, I think I was very distracted by,
Jasminelike- After this, I think we left and got food 'cause we were hungry.
Yeah.
LaceyBut, like, they came back with drinks and cake, and I was just like, "That-" That
Jasminestrawberry lemonade looks really good.
LaceyOh my God, it looks so good. I'm like, "I'm dying of thirst." I think I got, like, mints out of my pocket, and I was like, "Do you guys want a mint?" I'm just drinking my own spit over here. I think we were kind of afraid of losing our spot after not being able to sit to-
JasmineYeah, we just stayed there.
LaceyYeah. We're like, "We have to sit together this time."
JasmineBut also, like, we ran out of time, so, like, the next class was starting and we still hadn't gotten our photography taken. Yeah. So, like, we didn't have time to go and leave and go anywhere. The other people did.
LaceyOh, yeah, that's true.
JasmineYeah.
LaceyThey're like, "Oh, we did our thing. We're gonna go, and we'll come back." We didn't.
JasmineYeah.
LaceyWe went right into-
JasmineThe next class
LaceyI think he even came in while the other class was still-
JasmineYeah
Laceygoing, so, like, yeah, we didn't...
JasmineYeah
LaceyI remember now.
JasmineIt's all coming back? It's
Laceyall coming back.
JasmineOne thing I really appreciated about Obscura Paracon overall was. The environment, So you had hardcore paranormal investigators talking shop with complete beginners, people openly discussing p- spiritual practices without judgment, skeptics attending lectures out of curiosity, uh, vendors sharing genuinely unique creations and experiences. It felt less like a convention built around trying to convince people ghosts are real, and more like a gathering of people fascinated by mystery and the unknown.
LaceyI'd agree with that. There was, like, a camaraderie being there.
JasmineYeah.
LaceyIt's just like... Yeah, everyone was, like, very cool. There was no one I felt that was just like, "I am the main event."
JasmineI'm the main event.
LaceyYou are here to see me- and hear about my knowledge. Like, there was no... It didn't... There wasn't, like, an ego thing there.
JasmineYeah. And then, of course, we also did a late-night investigation at the Egyptian Theater, but that is a whole completely different episode.
LaceyVery cool, though. Very beautiful.
JasmineYeah Good times
LaceyGood time. It was a very good kind of introduction to paranormal conventions
JasmineYeah, I'd like to go to another one, a bigger one. Technically I was supposed to go to one, like, two years ago in October, but s- my cat was in the hospital.
LaceyOh, no.
JasmineYeah. So
Laceythey do that.
JasmineYeah,
Laceythey do. Yours specifically.
JasmineYeah. I didn't end up going to that one. I'd like to go to another one, a bigger one. We were trying to go to Pennhurst. Didn't hear good things about this year's though.
LaceyDid not hear good things, and it was very expensive- Yeah I think in comparison to this one. Like, not only would there have been travel, there, we-
JasmineTravel, hotel,
Laceyuh- Which we did stay at a hotel for this one, but- Yeah like, it wouldn't have been
JasmineTickets to get into the convention. There were, like, different tiers.
LaceyYes.
JasmineAnd then if you wanted to, like, get an investigation with a celebrity investigate, like-
LaceyTo investigate Pennhurst Asylum was- Yeah also a huge added cost, which who would go and not investigate Pennhurst?
JasmineI would be so mad-
LaceyThat's like, like- if I went
Jasmineand didn't investigate
LaceyYeah. I, I love conventions. I love... I don't wanna say I love talking to people. That's a lie. But, like, I don't know that I would pay a lot of money to go to a convention to meet somebody.
JasmineSome people would.
LaceyI just, like, I'm not that person.
JasmineYeah. Like, there's conventions that people, like Comic-Con and stuff.
LaceyYeah.
JasmineYou pay a ton of money for those tickets, but then you have to pay to see the, like, celebrities there as well.
LaceyYeah, that's not my thing.
JasmineLike, oh, $60 to get a picture with this person.
LaceyThat's we- that's weird for me.
JasmineYeah. So.
LaceyLike, I am totally into talking to other investigators. You know, it's kinda fun to, like, talk about what you've done, the coolest stuff. I definitely like doing the investigations. I love buying things.
JasmineWho doesn't?
LaceyMy, my wallet- I need to calm down a little, but, like, I love that part of it, but, like, paying so much money, like people were talking about at the Pennhurst Convention, that, like, they were waiting in line for hours to talk and meet with, like, their favorite investigators- I'd be like, "I'm hungry. I do not wanna wait in line."
JasmineI don't wanna be in line anymore. Let's go wait in line for food.
LaceyI I don't wanna do that either. But like, I don't like, I don't know what you really get out of that, and maybe that's my 'tism coming in, but like-
JasmineYou're like, "I don't actually really like people."
LaceyThat- I don't like
Jasminecelebrities
Laceythat, like, there are people that I like, but I don't... First of all, I'm awkward around people in general. But unless, like, I think you know how I am, then you're like, "Yeah, that's just how she is."
JasmineIt's just Lacey being Lacey.
LaceyBut, like, if I were to meet someone famous, I don't, I don't wanna pay a lot of money for that.
JasmineYou just wanna find them on the street.
LaceyEven then.
JasmineRob them. With your finger gun.
LaceyYeah. Like, I, I'm not a person who if I see a famous person would go up and be like, "Oh, hey, you're blah, blah, blah." Like, I'd just be like, "Hey, Jasmine, I think I see so-and-so over there." Like- Oh, my God that would be the end of my, that would be the end of my interaction. I would not, I, my anxiety would not wanna be like, "Hey, can I get a picture?" First of all, what if I'm wrong?
JasmineThey'd be like, "Yeah, let's get a picture."
LaceyLike, it's so weird to me, a couple, it's, like, three separate occasions I've had people come up and ask if I'm Garcia from Criminal Minds. You're like,
JasmineYeah."
LaceyI'm like, first of all, like, what am I doing in Michigan? Like, it did happen in Pennsylvania once, but I'm like, what's the thought process here?
JasmineJust say yes, take the picture with them, and then when they find out
Laceythat-
Jasminethey, they were wrong later, they can just be embarrassed at home.
LaceyUm, one time it happened, my aunt had passed them at a restaurant. They're like, "Hey, are you eating with Garcia from Criminal Minds?" And my aunt went, "I don't know who that is," and kept walking.
JasmineDon't talk to me. Keeps walking.
LaceyShe's like, "I don't know who that is." When she got to the table she's like, "Who is Garcia? Like, Criminal Minds?" It was so funny. I'm like, I, like, look over and they're, like, waving, like...
JasmineStranger danger.
LaceyThank you. I mean, I do like her. I like her character, but, like-
JasmineSo random
Laceythat wouldn't be me.
JasmineYeah.
LaceyI don't know. Is there anyone that you were dying to meet, like, that you wanted to stand in a couple hour line
Jasmineto- There?
LaceyYeah.
JasmineProject Fear.
LaceyYeah?
JasmineI love them.
LaceyAnd then what is your goal when you get up to them?
JasmineHi." "Can I get a picture? Thank you." Like that. "I like your guys' stuff."
LaceyI picture that. Katrina,
JasmineI like your stuff, too.
LaceyLike, when, uh... Oh, we went to the Whitney, and they're like, "We were trying to get Jack Osbourne here to do an event." Would've loved to do an event, like, with him there. Yeah,
Jasmineamazing.
LaceyBut it- I'm not, like, pushing through people to try and interact. "Hi. Hi. I l- loved your dad since
JasmineI was a little girl." He probably gets that so much. Like-
LaceyOkay, so, like, obviously one of my- I cried when he passed. My mom did, too.
JasmineUm, I cried a lot, like, multiple times.
LaceyI, like, found out and I went to go tell, and she's like... Just started crying. And I was like, "Okay." "I watched you as a teenager." "Now I watch your ghost stuff." I love-
JasmineYeah
Laceyhis ghost shows. I
Jasminelove his ghost shows.
LaceyLove. But, like, okay, so one of my favorite people to watch is Josh Gates.
JasmineYeah.
LaceyI don't know what I'd do. Just be like, "Hi." "Hi." "Hello." "Can I get a picture?" "I, I love you in a very normal way."
JasmineI love you in a really not weird way, I just don't know what words to say.
LaceyI'm a very weird person, and I'm very awkward. I enjoy your content. I love your sense of humor. I wanna go on a trip with you.
Speaker 3You're so
Jasminefunny.
LaceyLike, it's just... I just feel like I'm awkward.
JasmineYou're so funny.
LaceyLike, watching or seeing all the pictures people take with, like, celebrities that they pay a lot of money for, and I'm like, "What is the point of
Jasminethat?"
LaceyLike, I don't... My brain doesn't comprehend it.
JasmineAnd that is Lacey's rant on she doesn't understand famous people- and people's obsession.
LaceyI don't. I'm sorry. Ow. But also, like, my most favorite f- favorite famous person is Josh Gates.
JasmineI'm trying to think. I mean, I don't think there's a person that I'm like, "I would die to meet them."
LaceySo like would I love to do an investigation with a lot of these people? Yes Yeah, that'd be cool Would I love to do a walkthrough with like Amy from... I just blanked
JasmineDead Files
LaceyDead F- I'm like, it's not death. Dead Files. Yes, I would love to like do a walkthrough somewhere with her
JasmineThat'd be crazy
LaceyWouldn't it?
JasmineYeah
LaceyBut like, I'm not just like, "Oh my God, I love Amy Allen so much, and I'm gonna wait in this line for six hours so I can just say I love you and get a picture taken."
JasmineI wanna spend $200 to have dinner with you
LaceyI think the other one was $400- by the way
JasmineOh my God
LaceyThe Ohio one I sent you
JasmineCrazy. Crazy
LaceyI think my exact words was, "Who does he think he is?"
JasmineThey were.
LaceyLike, do I wanna go to a haunted place and do an investigation? Yes. Do I wanna pay three times the amount because someone famous is gonna lead it? No. I'm sorry. This is when my autism starts showing
JasmineNo, I do not wanna give you my money. Leave me alone
LaceyLike, I had a lot of fun at this ParaCon
JasmineAgreed.
LaceyBut it wasn't because there was a ton of famous people that I'm like-
JasmineI feel like when we went up to her, we're like, "Hey, we're done with that other class. Could we get our, like, our reading?" And she's like, "Well, this person is talking right now." And we're like, "Okay. Well, don't you wanna go listen to him talk?" It was, like, the most famous person that they had there. And we're like, "No." We wanna get this reading done.
LaceyNo, actually. That's why we're here right now.