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Spooky Side Quests 01 Our First Paracon

Jasmine & Lacey

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Welcome to the very first episode of Spooky Side Quests, a new mini-series from Girls Just Wanna Get Haunted! These shorter, more conversational episodes take us off the beaten path and into the weird, spooky, and wonderfully strange places we discover along the way. From paranormal events to quirky museums, oddball shops, and roadside curiosities, Spooky Side Quests are all about the adventures that don't quite fit into our regular episodes.

For our first Side Quest, we traveled to DeKalb, Illinois to attend our very first paranormal convention: Obscura Paracon. Held inside the castle-like Altgeld Hall at Northern Illinois University, the convention brought together paranormal investigators, psychics, vendors, authors, and enthusiasts for a weekend filled with workshops, shopping, and all things strange and unexplained. Join us as we share our favorite moments, and our first experience stepping into the world of paranormal conventions.


Obscura Paracon - Illuminating the Unseen. Celebrating the Unknown.


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Jasmine

Ooh. Ahh.

Lacey

Brought it up. Oh, your picture. Gotcha, gotcha. Gotcha, gotcha. My essence is joyful and optimistic.

Jasmine

Where? This episode of Spooky Side Quest took us to our very first paranormal convention, the unforgettable Obscura Paracon in Decal- Dekalb. Dekalb. Held inside the absolutely stunning Alt- Altgeld? Altgeld?

Lacey

I have no idea.

Jasmine

It's A-L-T-G-E-L-D.

Lacey

I think I kept calling it

Jasmine

Altged. Alt- something Hall, Altgeld Hall, at Northern Illinois University. The entire event felt like stepping into another world before we even walked through the doors, because it looks like a castle, gargoyles included.

Lacey

It did have gargoyles. Fascinated immediately. Yes. I love a

Jasmine

gargoyle. I was taking pictures. I was like, "This building is so cool."

Lacey

Beautiful.

Jasmine

Look at the gargoyles.

Lacey

Gargoy- why did we stop putting gargoyles on things?

Jasmine

Everything should have gargoyles.

Lacey

Agreed.

Jasmine

Uh, between the stone walls, gothic architecture, uh, the atmosphere alone made it feel like we were entering some secret society gathering for ghost hunters and weird little cryptid enthusiasts. Obscura Paracon describes itself as a celebration of the paranormal, the unexplained, and the beautifully strange. And honestly, that description's pretty accurate. The convention brought together paranormal investigators, psychic mediums, vendors, authors, metaphysical practitioners, and people who simply love the strange and unknown. Whether you're deeply into the paranormal world or just paranormal curious, there is something for everyone there One of the coolest parts of the convention was how interactive everything felt. There were lectures and presentations happening throughout the weekend covering haunted locations, paranormal investigations, metaphysical topics and personal experiences. There were workshops where attendees could get on-hand experience with different paranormal tools and practices instead of just sitting and listening to someone talk. And then there was a marketplace, which was basically impossible to walk through without spending money. Isn't that right?

Lacey

I don't know why you're looking at me like that.

Jasmine

Didn't you buy, like, three tote bags?

Lacey

I think I got two. Excuse you.

Jasmine

How many, how many patches did you get?

Lacey

A lot. Okay, but they were a really good deal- and I'm very excited about my patches. Yeah, exactly. Obviously, I'm a sucker- for a marketplace.

Jasmine

Yeah. Love it.

Lacey

And you do not help.

Jasmine

You're like, "Tell me I don't need this," and I'm like,

Lacey

I will never tell you that. You need it.

Jasmine

But you do need it.

Lacey

Uh, I'm sorry, what did, what did you purchase?

Jasmine

Um, what did I purchase? I bought spirit dice- and a little case holder for cat balls with, like, planchets that say, like, yes, no, maybe. I'm not saying I didn't buy anything. It's

Lacey

very fancy.

Jasmine

It's very cool.

Lacey

You got, like, the fancy ghost equipment, and I'm just like, "Ooh."

Jasmine

They had... There was a vendor there that just, like, took stuffed animals and put EMF detectors in it.

Lacey

Oh, hilarious. The, there was one on a bike that, like, a tricycle.

Jasmine

Yeah. It was so creepy. That guy was trying to get me to buy one hard.

Lacey

He saw you, and he's just like, "She needs this."

Jasmine

Look at this one. Look at this one." "Look at this one."

Lacey

He's like, "Wait, wait, come back. Look at this."

Jasmine

Yeah.

Lacey

Wait, wait."

Jasmine

He, I will put an EMF detector in anything. Bring me a toy.

Lacey

I just remember someone had on their table set out, like, Jo-Ann's Halloween fabric

Jasmine

Oh, yeah And

Lacey

I'm just like- I have that fabric "I have that fabric. I have that fabric." And he's just like, "Yeah, come look at this. Come pick stuff up." And I'm like, "I'm talking about your fabric?" And they're like, "Ugh, Jo-Ann's." Like, I'm like, "You don't have to tell me, okay?"

Jasmine

I know. I know.

Lacey

Like, I'm so devastated by Jo-Ann's. I, like, will talk about to anyone that'll let me. It's where I got my good Halloween fabric.

Jasmine

My Halloween fabric. Along with the different- paranormal equipment, clothes, jewelry, there were investigators, investigator groups that, like, were playing some of their, like, evidence that they caught

Lacey

A lot of tour guides that do

Jasmine

Yeah, there were some tour guides. Like, um, there's this guy that does tours in Chicago, and I literally went on one of his tours the Octo- like, last October. It was so weird.

Lacey

Which, and I see him all the time in videos, especially when I was, like, looking up Al Capone stuff.

Jasmine

Oh, I'm sure.

Lacey

He's just, like, always popping up.

Jasmine

Yeah. And

Lacey

I'm just like, "Hey."

Jasmine

Hey, I know that guy."

Lacey

I think it's funny how many people we recognize now on your, like, Haunt TV, your channel. Yeah.

Jasmine

I'm like, "Hey." "That guy's really boring." "Hey, we saw that guy." "I've met him."

Lacey

Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Jasmine

But yeah, people, showing, like, videos and recordings of evidence that they've caught, some teams promoting events happening all over the Midwest that they were throwing. Every booth had something different, and every person there had a story to tell. It really felt less like a convention floor and more like wandering through some strange little supernatural bazaar. There was, like, the one guy, he cracked me up. He's like, "Well, I'm really sad now. I should stop telling people about this." And now I follow him on TikTok.

Lacey

He's also someone I saw on your-

Jasmine

TV

Lacey

yeah.

Jasmine

Yeah. We attended two workshops during the convention. One was definitely more successful than the other.

Lacey

There's also another one we wanted to go to, but it sold out instantly.

Jasmine

Yeah. Sad face. It was what? Like, a, spiritual protection-

Lacey

Maybe

Jasmine

workshop or something? But yeah, that was sold out. Like, my favorite, which I'm guessing is also your favorite workshop that we did- was the aura photography session. I've had my aura photographed before in July. So I was kind of really excited to compare the results, 'cause they can change. So the first time, I was, like, completely orange everything, with like a little bit of green in a certain area. And the reader was like... said it was powerful, intense, and kind of badass. And this time, my aura was, like, completely different, but it was also, like, a completely different setup, and, like, a computer program with, like, so many statistics.

Lacey

This one was definitely not, like, how I thought your other one went.

Jasmine

Yeah.

Lacey

Like, I

Jasmine

was- It wasn't. It was a completely different presentation

Lacey

like, I was really excited to, like, get my picture taken with the aura thing, and this was definitely more scientific.

Jasmine

Yeah.

Lacey

Also, like, they ran out of time during the actual class.

Jasmine

Yeah.

Lacey

So she's like, "Oh, I can meet you guys a little later." And we, like... we're in, like, a big coat closet doing this- Yeah just, like, the three of us.

Jasmine

I, uh, I think it was also a sold-out class, and like... or close to selling out.

Lacey

Mm-hmm.

Jasmine

So, like, I think she was just spending too much time going over everybody's report.

Lacey

Right.

Jasmine

So we were the last to arrive to the class, and like-

Lacey

We got lost. We didn't know where the classes were.

Jasmine

We did. We got lost.

Lacey

It was like a weird side stairwell that, like, wasn't marked. It was like, it... the state... I don't know, it was weird.

Jasmine

Yeah. So we got lost, and then, like, we arrived, like, a few minutes late, or, like, right on time. So the... We didn't have to do it in this order, but the way it ended up going is, like, she did her presentation, and then she was kinda like, "Okay, who wants to get their picture taken first?" And it kinda just went, like, the closest person to her, and then it went down the line. But we were the farthest people- Yeah away from her, so she just ran out of time.

Lacey

We also didn't get to sit together. There was, like, someone in between us.

Jasmine

Don't even... We're not even gonna talk about that guy. I wasn't gonna bring him up. I'm just saying we didn't get to sit together. We didn't get to sit together. That's my spot. Yeah, that was weird. So the most prominent color in my reading this time, which I'm pretty sure is the same as Lacey, was yellow 'Cause we're the same person. Uh, although there were several different colors mixed throughout the image, watching the process happen in real time, like on the computer, whoa, was kinda fascinating. The system was connected to sensors that tracked energetic changes during the reading, and you could literally watch the numbers flux- fluctuate as emotions shifted. At one point, like Lacey said, we were in a little closet, the photographer, like tech, took a step backwards, and she like tripped a little bit, and I thought she was gonna fall, so like my hand was still on the reader, but I was like and like put my hand out, but it like scared me. She caught herself. She didn't fall. But like- My readings, like I literally watched some of them go from this level to drop- after my... It's like a five before, and now it's a two in things. It was so weird to watch, because I was just, like, worried and scared for her.

Lacey

I don't think I paid that much attention to the actual.

Jasmine

It was like my reaction was reflected in, like, the actual data. It was so weird, 'cause there's, like, bars. According to the report, yellow auras are associated with bright, optimistic, intelligent, and creative personalities. They're considered energetic people who enjoy humor, spontaneity, creativity, and finding joy in life. The description talked a lot about optimism, emotional balance, and not taking life too seriously, uh, which is pretty accurate. The report itself was over, like, 15 pages long and went incredibly in depth into emotional patterns, personality traits, energy levels, and interpersonal dynamics. Whether you fully believe in aura photography or not, the entire experience was fascinating and surprisingly personal. The report, the actual, like, reading part was a little rushed since we ran out of time.

Lacey

Yeah, it was very rushed. I'm, like, kinda skimming this now. I ver- vaguely skimmed it before.

Jasmine

Yeah.

Lacey

It's like this is a lot of information.

Jasmine

It's a ton of stuff. Like-

Lacey

It's a ton

Jasmine

broken down chakras, personality types, like, all kind of stuff. It

Lacey

says my purpose is to bring joy to others.

Jasmine

That's what you're doing right now. You're bringing joy to me.

Lacey

Yeah? Are you others? No. Just you? Spiritual: sees evidence of higher power everywhere and integrates intellect and spirituality well.

Jasmine

Ghosts. Ghosts.

Lacey

Higher power.

Jasmine

The second workshop we attended was focused on spirit photography, which sounded extremely cool in theory. Unfortunately, it ended up feeling less like a paranormal workshop and more like a history lesson on the evolution of cameras.

Lacey

I th- yeah, it was more like a show and tell. Yeah. Like, I have really cool cameras.

Jasmine

Yeah.

Lacey

Do you wanna look at them?

Jasmine

Look how old this one is.

Lacey

Look at it. Just look at it.

Jasmine

Don't get me wrong- Cameras are cool.

Lacey

Agreed.

Jasmine

But I think we're both hoping for, like, more of a discussion about paranormal investigation te- techniques-

Lacey

Yes

Jasmine

and trying to help, like, actually capture-

Lacey

Yes

Jasmine

evidence on camera and video. But it instead was, like, really heavily leaned into, like, cameras itself and photography technology kind of. Yes.

Lacey

There wasn't any techniques.

Jasmine

Yeah.

Lacey

It was just- Yeah how the cameras have changed.

Jasmine

Over time,

Lacey

yes.

Jasmine

Yeah. It wasn't terrible, just, you know, not quite what we expected going in.

Lacey

I also think I was very distracted 'cause between the two classes, some people left and came back. They, like, came back with drinks and cake.

Jasmine

Oh, yeah, and we're like, "That looks really good." Yeah. "We want that."

Lacey

Yeah, I think I was very distracted by,

Jasmine

like- After this, I think we left and got food 'cause we were hungry.

Yeah.

Lacey

But, like, they came back with drinks and cake, and I was just like, "That-" That

Jasmine

strawberry lemonade looks really good.

Lacey

Oh my God, it looks so good. I'm like, "I'm dying of thirst." I think I got, like, mints out of my pocket, and I was like, "Do you guys want a mint?" I'm just drinking my own spit over here. I think we were kind of afraid of losing our spot after not being able to sit to-

Jasmine

Yeah, we just stayed there.

Lacey

Yeah. We're like, "We have to sit together this time."

Jasmine

But also, like, we ran out of time, so, like, the next class was starting and we still hadn't gotten our photography taken. Yeah. So, like, we didn't have time to go and leave and go anywhere. The other people did.

Lacey

Oh, yeah, that's true.

Jasmine

Yeah.

Lacey

They're like, "Oh, we did our thing. We're gonna go, and we'll come back." We didn't.

Jasmine

Yeah.

Lacey

We went right into-

Jasmine

The next class

Lacey

I think he even came in while the other class was still-

Jasmine

Yeah

Lacey

going, so, like, yeah, we didn't...

Jasmine

Yeah

Lacey

I remember now.

Jasmine

It's all coming back? It's

Lacey

all coming back.

Jasmine

One thing I really appreciated about Obscura Paracon overall was. The environment, So you had hardcore paranormal investigators talking shop with complete beginners, people openly discussing p- spiritual practices without judgment, skeptics attending lectures out of curiosity, uh, vendors sharing genuinely unique creations and experiences. It felt less like a convention built around trying to convince people ghosts are real, and more like a gathering of people fascinated by mystery and the unknown.

Lacey

I'd agree with that. There was, like, a camaraderie being there.

Jasmine

Yeah.

Lacey

It's just like... Yeah, everyone was, like, very cool. There was no one I felt that was just like, "I am the main event."

Jasmine

I'm the main event.

Lacey

You are here to see me- and hear about my knowledge. Like, there was no... It didn't... There wasn't, like, an ego thing there.

Jasmine

Yeah. And then, of course, we also did a late-night investigation at the Egyptian Theater, but that is a whole completely different episode.

Lacey

Very cool, though. Very beautiful.

Jasmine

Yeah Good times

Lacey

Good time. It was a very good kind of introduction to paranormal conventions

Jasmine

Yeah, I'd like to go to another one, a bigger one. Technically I was supposed to go to one, like, two years ago in October, but s- my cat was in the hospital.

Lacey

Oh, no.

Jasmine

Yeah. So

Lacey

they do that.

Jasmine

Yeah,

Lacey

they do. Yours specifically.

Jasmine

Yeah. I didn't end up going to that one. I'd like to go to another one, a bigger one. We were trying to go to Pennhurst. Didn't hear good things about this year's though.

Lacey

Did not hear good things, and it was very expensive- Yeah I think in comparison to this one. Like, not only would there have been travel, there, we-

Jasmine

Travel, hotel,

Lacey

uh- Which we did stay at a hotel for this one, but- Yeah like, it wouldn't have been

Jasmine

Tickets to get into the convention. There were, like, different tiers.

Lacey

Yes.

Jasmine

And then if you wanted to, like, get an investigation with a celebrity investigate, like-

Lacey

To investigate Pennhurst Asylum was- Yeah also a huge added cost, which who would go and not investigate Pennhurst?

Jasmine

I would be so mad-

Lacey

That's like, like- if I went

Jasmine

and didn't investigate

Lacey

Yeah. I, I love conventions. I love... I don't wanna say I love talking to people. That's a lie. But, like, I don't know that I would pay a lot of money to go to a convention to meet somebody.

Jasmine

Some people would.

Lacey

I just, like, I'm not that person.

Jasmine

Yeah. Like, there's conventions that people, like Comic-Con and stuff.

Lacey

Yeah.

Jasmine

You pay a ton of money for those tickets, but then you have to pay to see the, like, celebrities there as well.

Lacey

Yeah, that's not my thing.

Jasmine

Like, oh, $60 to get a picture with this person.

Lacey

That's we- that's weird for me.

Jasmine

Yeah. So.

Lacey

Like, I am totally into talking to other investigators. You know, it's kinda fun to, like, talk about what you've done, the coolest stuff. I definitely like doing the investigations. I love buying things.

Jasmine

Who doesn't?

Lacey

My, my wallet- I need to calm down a little, but, like, I love that part of it, but, like, paying so much money, like people were talking about at the Pennhurst Convention, that, like, they were waiting in line for hours to talk and meet with, like, their favorite investigators- I'd be like, "I'm hungry. I do not wanna wait in line."

Jasmine

I don't wanna be in line anymore. Let's go wait in line for food.

Lacey

I I don't wanna do that either. But like, I don't like, I don't know what you really get out of that, and maybe that's my 'tism coming in, but like-

Jasmine

You're like, "I don't actually really like people."

Lacey

That- I don't like

Jasmine

celebrities

Lacey

that, like, there are people that I like, but I don't... First of all, I'm awkward around people in general. But unless, like, I think you know how I am, then you're like, "Yeah, that's just how she is."

Jasmine

It's just Lacey being Lacey.

Lacey

But, like, if I were to meet someone famous, I don't, I don't wanna pay a lot of money for that.

Jasmine

You just wanna find them on the street.

Lacey

Even then.

Jasmine

Rob them. With your finger gun.

Lacey

Yeah. Like, I, I'm not a person who if I see a famous person would go up and be like, "Oh, hey, you're blah, blah, blah." Like, I'd just be like, "Hey, Jasmine, I think I see so-and-so over there." Like- Oh, my God that would be the end of my, that would be the end of my interaction. I would not, I, my anxiety would not wanna be like, "Hey, can I get a picture?" First of all, what if I'm wrong?

Jasmine

They'd be like, "Yeah, let's get a picture."

Lacey

Like, it's so weird to me, a couple, it's, like, three separate occasions I've had people come up and ask if I'm Garcia from Criminal Minds. You're like,

Jasmine

Yeah."

Lacey

I'm like, first of all, like, what am I doing in Michigan? Like, it did happen in Pennsylvania once, but I'm like, what's the thought process here?

Jasmine

Just say yes, take the picture with them, and then when they find out

Lacey

that-

Jasmine

they, they were wrong later, they can just be embarrassed at home.

Lacey

Um, one time it happened, my aunt had passed them at a restaurant. They're like, "Hey, are you eating with Garcia from Criminal Minds?" And my aunt went, "I don't know who that is," and kept walking.

Jasmine

Don't talk to me. Keeps walking.

Lacey

She's like, "I don't know who that is." When she got to the table she's like, "Who is Garcia? Like, Criminal Minds?" It was so funny. I'm like, I, like, look over and they're, like, waving, like...

Jasmine

Stranger danger.

Lacey

Thank you. I mean, I do like her. I like her character, but, like-

Jasmine

So random

Lacey

that wouldn't be me.

Jasmine

Yeah.

Lacey

I don't know. Is there anyone that you were dying to meet, like, that you wanted to stand in a couple hour line

Jasmine

to- There?

Lacey

Yeah.

Jasmine

Project Fear.

Lacey

Yeah?

Jasmine

I love them.

Lacey

And then what is your goal when you get up to them?

Jasmine

Hi." "Can I get a picture? Thank you." Like that. "I like your guys' stuff."

Lacey

I picture that. Katrina,

Jasmine

I like your stuff, too.

Lacey

Like, when, uh... Oh, we went to the Whitney, and they're like, "We were trying to get Jack Osbourne here to do an event." Would've loved to do an event, like, with him there. Yeah,

Jasmine

amazing.

Lacey

But it- I'm not, like, pushing through people to try and interact. "Hi. Hi. I l- loved your dad since

Jasmine

I was a little girl." He probably gets that so much. Like-

Lacey

Okay, so, like, obviously one of my- I cried when he passed. My mom did, too.

Jasmine

Um, I cried a lot, like, multiple times.

Lacey

I, like, found out and I went to go tell, and she's like... Just started crying. And I was like, "Okay." "I watched you as a teenager." "Now I watch your ghost stuff." I love-

Jasmine

Yeah

Lacey

his ghost shows. I

Jasmine

love his ghost shows.

Lacey

Love. But, like, okay, so one of my favorite people to watch is Josh Gates.

Jasmine

Yeah.

Lacey

I don't know what I'd do. Just be like, "Hi." "Hi." "Hello." "Can I get a picture?" "I, I love you in a very normal way."

Jasmine

I love you in a really not weird way, I just don't know what words to say.

Lacey

I'm a very weird person, and I'm very awkward. I enjoy your content. I love your sense of humor. I wanna go on a trip with you.

Speaker 3

You're so

Jasmine

funny.

Lacey

Like, it's just... I just feel like I'm awkward.

Jasmine

You're so funny.

Lacey

Like, watching or seeing all the pictures people take with, like, celebrities that they pay a lot of money for, and I'm like, "What is the point of

Jasmine

that?"

Lacey

Like, I don't... My brain doesn't comprehend it.

Jasmine

And that is Lacey's rant on she doesn't understand famous people- and people's obsession.

Lacey

I don't. I'm sorry. Ow. But also, like, my most favorite f- favorite famous person is Josh Gates.

Jasmine

I'm trying to think. I mean, I don't think there's a person that I'm like, "I would die to meet them."

Lacey

So like would I love to do an investigation with a lot of these people? Yes Yeah, that'd be cool Would I love to do a walkthrough with like Amy from... I just blanked

Jasmine

Dead Files

Lacey

Dead F- I'm like, it's not death. Dead Files. Yes, I would love to like do a walkthrough somewhere with her

Jasmine

That'd be crazy

Lacey

Wouldn't it?

Jasmine

Yeah

Lacey

But like, I'm not just like, "Oh my God, I love Amy Allen so much, and I'm gonna wait in this line for six hours so I can just say I love you and get a picture taken."

Jasmine

I wanna spend $200 to have dinner with you

Lacey

I think the other one was $400- by the way

Jasmine

Oh my God

Lacey

The Ohio one I sent you

Jasmine

Crazy. Crazy

Lacey

I think my exact words was, "Who does he think he is?"

Jasmine

They were.

Lacey

Like, do I wanna go to a haunted place and do an investigation? Yes. Do I wanna pay three times the amount because someone famous is gonna lead it? No. I'm sorry. This is when my autism starts showing

Jasmine

No, I do not wanna give you my money. Leave me alone

Lacey

Like, I had a lot of fun at this ParaCon

Jasmine

Agreed.

Lacey

But it wasn't because there was a ton of famous people that I'm like-

Jasmine

I feel like when we went up to her, we're like, "Hey, we're done with that other class. Could we get our, like, our reading?" And she's like, "Well, this person is talking right now." And we're like, "Okay. Well, don't you wanna go listen to him talk?" It was, like, the most famous person that they had there. And we're like, "No." We wanna get this reading done.

Lacey

No, actually. That's why we're here right now.